On July 23, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued a landmark advisory opinion reaffirming states’ legal obligations to mitigate climate change. The court emphasised that countries are required to reduce their greenhouse gases (GHG) emissions and support vulnerable nations. The ruling has sparked debates over sovereignty, enforcement, and global equity. Can the ICJ ruling force rich nations to pay for historical emissions? Ted Nordhaus and Anand Grover discuss the question in a conversation moderated by Kunal Shankar. Edited excerpts:
What are your thoughts on the ICJ’s ruling?
Then there is the question of consequences — how many people are in harm’s way? Populations are moving into coastal zones for economic opportunity, not away from them. All this makes adjudicating these cases difficult. I’m sceptical that this will result in compelling or actionable international legal findings.
Anand Grover: The ICJ opinion is a legal statement, not an enforceable judgment. It doesn’t allow states or individuals to easily show causality between a state’s inaction and specific harm. That linkage is hard to prove. Say you want to show that a state failed to act and that caused a temperature rise of 1.5°C — how do you prove that link? And as Ted mentioned, these events would likely have occurred regardless, though climate change may exacerbate them.
Also, the structural problems in the international legal system remain. The U.S., a major emitter, backed out of the Paris Agreement and continues to subsidise fossil fuels. If you can’t hold such states accountable, how will you hold anyone else? Even if the ICJ issued an enforceable order — unlikely — the UN Security Council could block enforcement. As we have seen in other cases such as Gaza, enforcement is political. That said, there is a positive: the ruling provides legal grounding for domestic courts. Countries that have ratified and incorporated treaties can now use this to hold their own governments accountable. That is useful, particularly for vulnerable island nations. But attributing harm to specific countries remains difficult.
Anand, the court reaffirmed the 1.5°C threshold from the Paris Agreement, but we are likely to cross that soon. Should the court have gone further in addressing that?
Ted, U.S. President Donald Trump has announced a rollback of Obama-era regulations meant to curb carbon emissions that were undergirded by the Endangerment Finding. How do you see the ICJ’s references to historical responsibility in this context?
There is this idea that international courts or legal mechanisms will force painful transitions onto reluctant countries. That is just not going to happen. The ICJ ruling doesn’t change that. The politics aren’t there. You won’t get international legal action to translate into significant domestic shifts in major economies.
Would the Loss and Damage Fund may be more effective than the ICJ ruling?
These mechanisms were created by Western environmentalists. Trying to co-opt them to advance equity has failed. Developing countries should focus on their own development using whatever resources they can muster.
Anand Grover: I agree in part. Many international conventions were created to hold developing countries accountable. They were not applied equally to the West. For instance, human rights standards were used against countries in the Global South, but the West ignores them at home — take U.S. immigration policy, for example. Now, the West is in economic decline. Mr. Trump wants manufacturing back in the U.S. because wages are high and companies moved to China. To do that, he is relaxing environmental regulations. Yet he won’t be held accountable. If the U.S. can ignore global norms, how can we expect compliance from others?
Still, I believe domestic courts can use the ICJ ruling effectively. Environmental groups can argue that governments failed to act. That is more feasible locally. But even this is getting harder. Courts in India, like in the U.S., are increasingly weak and politicised. Ten years ago, we couldn’t imagine the Indian Supreme Court functioning as it does now. Just as in the U.S., we would not have expected the Supreme Court to undo affirmative action 10 years ago.
Would you agree with Ted that developing nations should not rely on reparations?
Ted, your advocacy of ecomodernism hinges on technological solutions. But if these technologies don’t reach developing countries, won’t that hinder decarbonisation?
Ted, do you see any positives in this ruling?
Anand Grover: It still has value domestically. Activists and lawyers can use it to push their governments to act. But internationally, prospects are bleak.
The U.K.’s Shadow Energy Secretary claims that the ruling will trigger a wave of litigation against developed nations. Do you agree?
